Minutes of Business Meeting - January 29, 2016
January 29th, 2016
Ashirvad - Loyola Hall, St. Marks Road
8:35 - 9:50 pm
ATTENDEES
CLUB OFFICERS
Esther
Roshini Chandy SERGEANT AT ARMS
Mahaveer
Jain TREASURER
Raghunandan
Damle SECRETARY
Varun Dev
CC VP PUBLIC
RELATIONS
Joseph
Dass CC CL VP MEMBERSHIP
Prakash
Tamhankar VP EDUCATION
Cherian
Thomas PRESIDENT
MEMBERS (19)
Abhishek Karnwal
Ashish Varghese
Godfrey Soans
Karunakar Dev
Mahesh Vittal Rao
Mohiddin Shaik
Payal Pankaj Bhulani CC, CL, ACB
Prashanth Nair
Rahul Bhuyan
Ratan Shetty
Raveendra Babu Mandava
Richard L D’Souza
Robinson D’Souza
Santhosh Kumar M.
Shilpa Samuel
Srija Jampana
Vijay Vasudev Kalkundri
Vineeth R
Yogesha Yarahally Chowdegowda
AGENDA 1 – NEW FINANCIAL POLICY
A draft of a
new Financial Policy and Procedure, prepared by the new committee, was read out
by the VP Education, Prakash Tamhankar. Printed copies of the policy were
handed out to every member. The eight items in it are listed below with a
summary of the discussions pertaining to each.
1.
As
per Club constitution, the treasurer is the person authorized to manage the
club funds. All club funds need to be with the treasurer/in club account at the
first opportunity at all times. The President, as a CEO of the club, acts as
the alternative in extreme situations.
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Richard
D’Souza expressed concern about funds being exclusively managed by the
Treasurer. It was agreed that funds should be in joint custody of Treasurer and
President.
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Robinson
D’Souza inquired why this financial policy is required when Toastmasters
International already has a financial policy. Prakash answered that TMI’s
policy is at a broader level and does not cover details that are covered in
this policy.
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Vineeth
mentioned that TMI has guidelines for financial policy but allows clubs to have
additional club-specific policies.
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Robinson
agreed to the above provided that the policies are not in conflict.
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Joseph
mentioned that this new policy would avoid ambiguity when the committee
changes.
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Robinson
D’Souza said that this policy should have been circulated prior to the business
meeting to give members time to assimilate it.
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Cherian
answered that it is a draft policy which is being shared today so that the
process starts. The committee would like the club to pass it in one month.
2.
The
treasurer shall publish the budget within the first month of the term to the
club membership and get approval of the club membership during business
meeting.
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This
clause was accepted by all present
3.
The
treasurer shall also publish the monthly revenue/expense status to the club
membership.
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The
committee explained that this clause is unique to our club and is intended to
improve clarity and credibility of the club through transparency.
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Godfrey
mentioned that this information should not be visible to the public as
Toastmasters is a non-profit organisation. The committee clarified that it
would be visible to members only.
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Robinson
said that clause 3 does not seem properly phrased and asked Esther’s opinion,
as a chartered accountant. Esther clarified the clause and it was agreed to
replace the word ‘membership’ with ‘members’ in clauses 3 and 4.
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Raveendra
inquired whether we could have a variable membership fee and ask members who
re-join after a gap to pay a higher fee. This was vetoed by the majority.
4.
The
treasurer shall get any deviations to the budget up to twice the term
membership fee approved by the executive committee during committee meeting.
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Cherian
stated that this clause should be used only for extraordinary circumstances.
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Robinson
and Richard said that the wording of this clause was not clear. Does membership
fee refer to individual membership fee or total?
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Cherian
said the committee would reword this clause.
5.
The
treasurer shall get any deviations beyond twice the membership fee approved by
the club membership during business meeting.
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The
members found this clause to be superfluous and the committee agreed to remove
it.
6.
The
treasurer shall maintain the savings/current bank account for normal financial
operations with a bank in India and publish details to club membership to
facilitate online transfers. The transfer of the bank account to the new
treasurer at the end of the term shall be the responsibility of the outgoing
treasurer.
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Members
mentioned that this clause is already there in TMI guidelines.
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It
was inquired about the meaning of ‘bank in India’ and the committee clarified
that it meant an Indian bank, not a foreign bank.
7.
The
treasurer shall move funds beyond twice the term expenditure into fixed deposit
accounts as strategic funds. These fixed deposits shall be for a period of 5
years or above (based on best returns), to be renewed subsequently for similar
terms, with interest payable into the savings/current account on
quarterly/semi-annual/annual basis. The principal amount in these fixed
deposits shall not be utilized for any expenses without the approval of the
club membership in a business meeting. The interest received shall be utilized
for the club expenses, keeping the club affordable for the members.
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A
question was raised about what happens if the treasurer leaves the club
mid-term.
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Esther
clarified that typically three signatories operate the bank account so the
other two signatories can still operate the account.
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It
was unanimously agreed that the three signatories should be the President,
Treasurer and Secretary.
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Robinson
said that a standing instruction could be given to the bank to automatically
transfer excess funds into fixed deposits.
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Godfrey
pointed out sometimes shorter terms yield higher interest rates.
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Esther
replied that the treasurer and committee would choose the term of fixed
deposits to maximise interest.
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Godfrey
asked “What if the committee overrules the clause of not utilising funds for
expenses without approval?”
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Esther
replied that the financial transparency that this policy aims to achieve will
avoid that because account statements are published to members.
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Godfrey
said that he is opposed to raising club membership fee because the club has
always attracted a large number of students and we should strive to keep the
club affordable to benefit the maximum number of people.
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Ratan
said that none of the clauses mentioned how many business meetings can be held
in a term.
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Cherian
replied that there is no minimum or maximum but normally two meetings are held
per term. It was agreed that a minimum of two business meetings should be held.
8.
The
treasurer shall be authorized to move funds beyond the term projected
expenditure (if any) to short-term fixed deposit accounts for a period not
exceeding one year and two days, to get better returns on non-utilized funds.
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It
was agreed that points 7 and 8 could be merged.
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Robinson
asked the committee to take advice from Richard D’Souza.
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The
committee agreed to take feedback and revise the policy.
AGENDA 2 – PREVIOUS BUDGET
Varun Dev,
Treasurer of the previous term, presented a financial report of the previous
term.
He mentioned
that when he took over as Treasurer the bank signatory had not been changed
since 2007 and he had a difficult time convincing the bank to change the
signatories to the President and himself.
Godfrey said
that the bank signatories were changed when Amnol Garg/Jayant Das was the
President.
Varun replied
that yes it had been, but earlier names were not removed.
Varun presented
a snapshot of the financial statement at the end of the previous term, after
all dues to Ashirvad hall had been paid till Dec 2015.
AGENDA 2 – BUDGET FOR JAN-JUNE 2016
The current
Treasurer, Mahaveer Jain, presented the budget for the current term. The budget
is an estimate considering two speechcraft sessions in this term.
He highlighted
the fact that Ashirvad hall has informed us that the rent for the hall and
charge for snacks is going to be increased.
The budget
clearly showed a deficit of Rs. 36,340 after a proposed increase in membership
fee of Rs. 100.
Robinson asked
if the committee had negotiated with the Director of Ashirvad hall about the
increase in rental. The committee said that Robinson would be the best person
to do that.
Godfrey suggested
bridging the deficit by conducting speechcraft for corporate clubs.
It was inquired
when the club fees was increased last. The Treasurer, Mahaveer, replied that it
was increased by Rs. 100 in 2012 during Sanjay Hassa’s term, to compensate for
fluctuation in dollar value.
Raveendra
inquired whether the committee had considered another venue. Cherian and
Robinson emphatically opposed this idea as it would have an adverse effect on
membership.
In response to
a question about how we compare with other clubs, Cherian replied that compared
to other community clubs in Bangalore, we are the cheapest.
Robinson
offered the following suggestions:
1.
Charge
guests a small fee
2.
Negotiate
with the Director of Ashirvad hall.
3.
Raise
funds through speechcraft. The club has been contacted to conduct speechcraft
for doctors in MS Ramaiah hospital.
Yogesha
suggested asking for donations from members.
Mohiddin
inquired about the fixed deposit of Rs. 5-6 lakhs being held in the account of
ex President, George Timothy.
Cherian said
that while Mr. George Timothy verbally agreed to transfer the money into the
club account, his actions till date speak otherwise. He avoided meeting Cherian
and asked him to speak to Mr. Claudius Pereira. However, when Cherian spoke to
Claudius on the phone the conversation turned unpleasant.
Robinson said
that Mr. George Timothy needs assurance that the money will not be misused by
the club committee. He said that the money is not in Mr. Timothy’s personal
account but in the name of BTMC.
Joseph inquired
what would happen to the money in the event of Mr. Timothy’s death.
Robinson said
that the club did lose money once in the past when a former President, who was
carrying club money in cash in his car, was robbed of it.
Cherian said
that when he asked George what the money was for, he said it was to pay for
membership fees of senior members.
Speaking for
the members, Joseph said that all members should be treated equally
irrespective of their seniority.
Mahesh inquired
if we could lease Ashirvad hall for a long term to bring down rentals. Robinson
said it is against TMI rules.
Robinson asked
Cherian to meet George one-to-one, which Cherian agreed to do.
In conclusion
it was agreed that the budget should be passed next week.
ADJOURNMENT
The President, Cherian Thomas, adjourned the business meeting at 9:50 pm.
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